Ramme kliché 5.22 kendetegn

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Eric Johansen
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Ramme kliché 5.22 kendetegn

Indlæg af Eric Johansen » tors jan 13, 2022 4:08 pm

This kliché has no distinguishing features indicated in TOFdata 8.06. There is however a distinguishing feature visible from at least 4 øre 1 to 3 øre 1. I have circled the feature in the attached images; it can best be described as 'grums i rammen i SV hjørne'
4 øre 1 pos 22.jpg
4 øre 1 pos 22.jpg (66.67 KiB) Vist 158 gange
8 øre 1 pos A22.jpg
8 øre 1 pos A22.jpg (128.72 KiB) Vist 158 gange
16 øre 1 pos 22.jpg
16 øre 1 pos 22.jpg (82.9 KiB) Vist 158 gange
25 øre 1 pos 22.jpg
25 øre 1 pos 22.jpg (75.46 KiB) Vist 158 gange
It is present in 12 øre 1 pos 22 and 3 øre 1 pos 22 but less pronounced:
12 øre 1 pos 22.jpg
12 øre 1 pos 22.jpg (88.49 KiB) Vist 158 gange
3 øre 1 pos 22.jpg
3 øre 1 pos 22.jpg (59.32 KiB) Vist 158 gange
It pretty much disappears in 50 øre 1b:
50 øre 1b pos 22.jpg
50 øre 1b pos 22.jpg (69.72 KiB) Vist 158 gange

I noticed it while trying to plate this 25 øre stamp.
25 øre 1 pos 22 used.jpg
25 øre 1 pos 22 used.jpg (67.98 KiB) Vist 158 gange
From the cancellation date (3-2-1875) and colors it must be from printing 1. Looking at the perforations, I concluded it was from the second column (machine K1). Working with the whole sheet and TOFdata, I quickly ruled out any described OF and RF. Looking closely at the stamps without RF or OF I was drawn to the 'grums i rammen i SV hjørne' in position 22. Looking for it in pos 22 showed that it was actually present in the first printing of many other øre values as indicated above. I did not see it in any of the skilling values but here there are only a limited number of whole sheets to work with.

Comments in English or Danish are welcome.

Best regards
Eric Johansen

Bernd Stein
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Re: Ramme kliché 5.22 kendetegn

Indlæg af Bernd Stein » tors jan 13, 2022 7:06 pm

Hej Eric,

Thank you very much for your interesting contribution!
But - it's no surprise, that the RF ("grums i SV-hjørne") is not visible in 50ø1,
as this was printed with the B-plate of setting 5!
So position 22 in this print has actually the frame-cliché 5.122 and not 5.22.

Mange hilsener! Bernd

Eric Johansen
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Re: Ramme kliché 5.22 kendetegn

Indlæg af Eric Johansen » fre jan 14, 2022 12:54 pm

Thanks Bernd;

One of the reasons I love Den Tofarvede Studiegruppe site is that I can learn something new every day.

Mvh
Eric

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